Ok here is the answer and some info. There is a bus that leaves Nicoya and will get you 800m from the park or Hotel Las Cavernas link. It leaves from La Parada Municipal(Mercado) in Nicoya @ 11:30am & 4:30am. Make sure you tell them “Parque National Barra Honda”link and not just “Barra Honda” (the town).
There is a return bus at 7am & 12pm. Saturdays only morning bus and on Sunday no bus.
Here is more info:
You will have to walk the 800m to the park entrance. If no car, then uphill another 2km to get to the trails and anther 2km to get to either the lookout(Mirada) or the big cavern. You pay for entrance and guide at the park entrance. Not sure you need a guide if you are going in the cavern, just hiking/backpacking. Bring items to wash the dirt off your hands if climbing down into the cavern. Dirt from the shoes somehow makes it onto everything you touch. More water and papertowels work, I luckily had wet wipes and water. More water the better especially if you are backpacking and camping out. There are 3 English speaking guides and high riding 2×4’s can make it the whole way, if not to just 50m from the top parking lot. Suzuki Swift type car might be too low and difficult to find place to park if such is the case. Cavern climb is tough but doable and they belay you on a strong rope should you slip. Bring something to wipe the sweat/fog off your eyeglasses. Go as early as possible, cavern is only open 8am-1pm. I noticed as backpacking option on the sign up sheet. Guide said monkeys weren’t a problem.
The hotel Las Cavernas cost me 10k Colones with aircon/breakfast. Was not fancy. Nice swimming pool and owners do not speak English. I made some new friends with them.
If coming by car look for signs for the park and DO NOT take a route instead that Google maps says, 8 minutes faster. Google blew it until I was actually there and heading out, and no, Waze couldn’t even find the place. No internet or phone service once you pass through town of Barra Honda. Best food options, restaurant/do your own are in Nicoya. Hwy 21 out of Nicoya, turn onto Hwy 18 and you will start seeking signs. Hope this helps.
Recently we took a trip to the Caribbean (Puerto Viejo) for the first time. We decided to go by bus for economic reasons – it cost about $10 each/each way. Having been in CR only 2 months, and not speaking Spanish, we were a little overwhelmed by the process, but Rob Evans is our hero. We found this site invaluable, and Rob is patient answering thousands of questions. We had exact instructions from Rob prior to leaving our rental in San Luis de Grecia. We took the local bus to Grecia at 6 A.M. Once in Grecia, we caught the 6:30 bus to San Jose. We arrived in SJ about 7:40, took a taxi over to Atlantic North terminal, and our plan was to buy our tickets for a 10 A.M. departure to Puerto Viejo. We planned to go have some breakfast while we waited. To our surprise, there was an 8 A.M. bus, and we were able to get on that bus, and be on our way. (This was a MEPE bus). The bus went to Limon, where it stopped for a potty break at the terminal in Limon. We were there about 15-20 minutes (long enough to get some breakfast at a soda in the terminal), then on the way to Puerto Viejo.
We arrived in Puerto Viejo right about noon. Our plan was to return on Monday morning, so we got up early and headed into Puerto Viejo to buy our tickets. The bus was to depart at 8 A.M. to San Jose. The ticket office did not open until 7:45 – I’m not sure if that’s the scheduled time or not – and there was a little bit of a line waiting when they opened.
The agent advised that both the 8 o’clock and 10 o’clock buses were full, that there would likely be standing room only. Here’s some advice – go to the ticket office the day before and buy your return ticket, instead of waiting until the day of travel.
The agent advised that we would be “stand-by”, or the last to load. We watched as the bus loaded, fearing that we would be standing all the way back. When we were down to the “stand-by” group, we were called up to load. A young lady who had purchased her ticket before us complained to the agent, and he replied to her “don’t you see how old he is” (62, FYI), referring to me (not my wife). Man, I love this place. We boarded the bus and found two of the remaining seats (not together though) for our trip home. The return trip was just like the trip down – stopped in Limon, then on to San Jose. Couldn’t have been any easier, because we had all the info we needed, thanks to this group, and especially Rob. Our total cost, including all transfer buses and taxis, was less than $50. We are thankful for Rob’s work, and looking forward to our next adventure. Pura Vida!
The bus station in La Fortuna is quite simple with only one bay and a few bus routes. As you can see from below, there are only three buses to Tilaran from La Fortuna each day – 7:30 a.m., 12:30 p.m and 5:00 p.m. We caught the 7:30 a.m. bus out of town. The fare was c5375 for both of us or about $10 or $5 each.
I don’t trust schedules. The bus actually came at 8 a.m. not 7:30 a.m. and got to Tilaran at 10:00 a.m. Still, we enjoy hanging out next door at the little soda I wrote about here San Jose to La Fortuna.
The bus was modern and comfortable enough but I don’t recall it having AC so make sure that the seat you select has a window that will open.
The Trip (bring Dramamine)
Ok, I have been dreaming about this trip for a while. The map below shows the route around the lake. I had a vision of having panoramic views of the lake so I sat on the left side facing forward. Well, the google map below hides the fact the road is quite curvy and many times the lake view is obscured by trees. I could live without the view but the trip was too curvy for me to want to take it again. The bus got me from point A to B but I won’t be choosing this route again, if I can help it.
Arriving at Tilaran
Tilaran is a nice, small little town with a small bus station from the limited time I spent there. I think you can get to Canas, San Jose and Monteverde from here.
A few pictures of the town center and main church and park that are traditional in Costa Rica towns.
Tilaran to San Jose
The bus home to San Jose was modern and comfortable. It left at 9:30 a.m. and cost c3,950 or about $8 per person. The bus stopped at the airport (SJO) if you need to catch a flight out.
I am a little confused by this station. I think it might have been a main station before Terminal 7-10, next door, was built so it appears to have a few names. When I look it up on Google, it shows that Terminal MEPE and Terminal Atlantico Norte are both at this location. MEPE is the main company here primarily services to the Caribbean side with a major hub in Limon. I say all this so when you tell the taxi driver where you are going to remember both names in case he does not know one.
I am probably the wrong person for this since I am so naive (I often strike up conversations with drug dealers and prostitutes not knowing their occupation until my wife hits me on the head) but I thought it was important to make folks aware that the area around Terminal 7-10 and Terminal MEPE has a bad reputation. I have been walking around and through the area for a year no knowing its reputation for a year without incident (daytime). I hear the telltale clue to seedy areas is the number of hourly hotels. I knew it was seedy but I have been and lived in worse so am clueless but I see the guide books suggest caution in these area which is why I suggest folks take a taxi in and out to make sure you are safe. Again, I walk through here all the time but I am not looking for drugs or prostitutes and look like I know where I am going and am on a mission and so draw little attention. I marked the “red zones” below according to the guide books which I am sure are approximate.
If you want to see backpackers, this is the terminal to see them. I might guess, half the folks on my bus were backpackers. I am betting many are on their way to Panama.
MEPE has a pretty simple route headed to Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Bribri and Sixola where you cross into Panama
The MEPE bus pulls into the middle bay next to the Central bus on the right.
I wanted to mention that I noticed this station is also the home for Central Line. Central Line, SA is a Nicaraguan company dedicated to international transport service (daily) between San Jose – Managua and Managua – San Jose. facebook and website
A few other points. There is a public bathroom that costs c200 and a restaurant on site. Also, the taxi drivers are aggressive so be prepared when you step off the bus.
Oh, we really enjoy the Costa Rica children who are curious, polite and full of fun as they investigate why us old gringos are on the bus.
Hi Rob, MEPE is one of the bus companies that go to the Caribbean from San Jose. The other, Caribbeaños, only goes to Limon city from San Jose.
Both used to leave from the bus station called Caribbeaños. About 2 or 3 years ago MEPE had a disagreement with the owner of the bus station Caribbeaños and changed stations. At that time they began and are still leaving for the Caribbean from the bus station called Atlantic Norte. Which also has buses to San Carlos, northwest of San Jose.
The bus stations are not owned by the bus companies. The bus companies contract use of the bus stations. So the name of the station for the direct bus to Puerto Viejo, is Atlantic Norte. Atlantico Norte It is on Avenida 9, calle 12 in Barrio Mexico. The name of the bus company that leaves for Puerto Viejo from Atlantico Norte is MEPE.
I always tell people the name of the bus station and the address, (above). I do not mention the name of the bus company, in case some uninformed taxi driver goes to the old bus station. I have heard of this happening.
As for the Caribbeanos bus which leaves from the Caribbeanos bus station and goes to Limon. Their buses leave more frequently and are nicer and more comfortable buses. My husband prefers this one. He goes to San Jose once a month. But I do not tell most guests about this because this bus only goes to Limon and they would have to changes buses and bus stations in Limon, which may confuse them.
Evelyn TanakaDay 1 arrived at Juan Santamaria airport at 7 am. We chickened out and took the $20 USD taxi to bus station 7-10
Evelyn TanakaDay 1 bought bus tickets to La Fortuna on the top floor of the 7-10 bus station. I think the bus company was called Venecia and they had a 11:50 am bus to La Fortuna. Cost 2,380 Colones and took about 5 hours with lots of stops.
Evelyn TanakaDay 4 did the jeep-boat-horseback-van tour around Lake Arenal to get to Monteverde. Cost $85 USD/person and the horseback riding was for about 10 km and took a couple hours. It was awesome! Road to Santa Elena was unpaved but not as bad as I thought it was going to be. I heard some horror stories from friends.
Evelyn TanakaCharter bus from Santa Elena town to Santa Elena reserve was $4 round trip.
Evelyn TanakaDay 7 Caught the 4:20 am bus from Santa Elena to Puntarenas. It picks up at the top of the hill near the Banco Popular and Sabor Tico not at the Banco Nacional as Lonely Planet said. We had a fun run up the hill with all our gear! Can’t remember how much this bus cost but it wasn’t much. I believe there was free wifi too. Took about 3.5 hours to get to Puntarenas.
Evelyn TanakaDay 7 Last stop in Puntarenas is the bus station and we bought tickets for the 9 am bus to Quepos. Cost was 2305 Colones and there was free wifi. This bus broke down (the engine seized) so we had to wait until they sent another bus to pick us up. It was 36C with no A/C and it was a very long bus ride (felt like 3+ hours plus the delay). Didn’t feel super great once we got into Quepos. But free wifi – yay!
Evelyn TanakaBus from Quepos to Manuel Antonio was like 295 colones, super cheap!
Evelyn TanakaDay 9 bus from Quepos to San Jose. We paid a little more to get a “directo” bus back to San Jose. Tickets were 4365 Colones and you can buy them from the main bus station in town. The bus was late because it stops in Manuel Antonio first but it only make one bathroom stop. There was A/C on this bus but no free wifi. Took about 3 hours I think.
One of the annual events my wife and I are starting to enjoy is a visit to La Fortuna (LF) during the low season in September, which is also the green or rainy season. September and October are two of the rainiest months in CR, which means there are fewer people and better deals. In 2015, we took the bus from San Ramon to La Fortuna for a couple of days of R&R link. The inexpensive bus from San Ramon to LF runs four times a day and provides quite a scenic ride; however, if you tend to experience motion-sickness, I recommend you take a Dramamine tablet when you board the bus. We stayed in a hotel for $30 a night and took a few adventure tours which were half the usual high-season rates. So we enjoyed a $35 half-price guided tour of Arenal. At the end of the tour, the sky opened up and we experienced the full force of mother nature and were drenched. We learned from that experience that the rain is not all that bad and we could live with it for the discounted prices being offered. We also learned there was a free hot spring enjoyed by the locals and budget minded Free Hot Springs in La Fortuna.
So in September of 2016, we wanted to celebrate our 35th wedding anniversary and decided to explore the hot springs in LF. I have been collecting all the Hot Springs in Costa Rica locations so we can eventually try them all. You might enjoy reading this review of The best hot springs in La Fortuna.
There are about eight hot springs in LF, so we chose two high-end places – Tabacon and Eco Termales. Tabacon is a high-end, tourist experience and Eco Termales is a smaller, more intimate experience.
Step 1: Terminal 7-10
The first step in any CR bus adventure is finding the right bus station. There are many bus stations in San Jose – normally one for each bus company and route. Terminal 7-10 is new and fortunately has a number of bus companies located in the facility, which is also a shopping mall with stores, a pharmacy, and a food court.
We always take a taxi to the station because the area has a reputation for being dicey. The area between Terminal 7-10 and the central avenue is known as the “red zone” and, in addition to having many hourly hotels, has many homeless and drug users and is best avoided on foot.
Here is a Facebook Album of Terminal 7-10 with photos link and here is where to eat link.
On the third floor, go the ticket station on the left end (there is another bus company to the right), and buy your ticket to La Fortuna from the window on the far right of the counter.
Note: on the left, all the times leaving for Ciudad Quesada, a major hub in San Carlos that offers frequent trips back and forth to La Fortuna
I bought my ticket a few days before because I am risk-averse; however, except for holidays, you can probably show up an hour beforehand and buy a ticket without a problem. There are three buses a day going to La Fortuna from San Jose. I purchased the 8:40 a.m. bus.
An alternate route, shown below, is to take the bus from San Jose to Ciudad Quesada and from Ciudad Quesada to La Fortuna, which runs frequently.
BTW, I typically type out the information for the ticket I want to buy so there are no misunderstandings. Remember that Costa Rica’s date format is DD/MM/YYYY so I normally write it out (ex: September 26, 2016) and the day of the week (Monday) with the Spanish translation to reduce the chance for error. The bus ticket to LF costs about $5 USD. You get a white ticket which you give the driver and a yellow copy for your records. In addition, the driver will give you a temporary ticket to re-board at the midway rest stop.
Step 2: The Bus Trip
The phone app, Map.Me, which I use to follow the trip, indicated the trip would take about two hours, not accounting for traffic or stops. We left at 8:40 a.m. and arrived at 1 p.m., so the duration was more like four hours. There are no bathrooms on the bus, which has only one rest stop halfway through the trip (at Ciudad Quesada), so use the bathrooms on the 2nd and 3rd floor of Terminal 7-10 before you leave. The attendant charges c200.
Note: if you have a seat preference, there is no reserved seating on this route and the bus boards 15 minutes before leaving.
Line up here on the 1st floor
15 minutes departure they let you through
This is the bus you want to board
Also, this bus does not have AC, so if you need air, get on early to find a seat with a window that will open. Once you are seated is a good time to take that Dramamine if you need it. I sat on the right side hoping to get better views, which proved correct. I was excited that my backpack fit in the overhead (photo below) since many times the overhead space is very tight and I have to keep my backpack between my legs the whole trip, which would not have been good on this route given how tightly the seats are spaced. I always put my backpack across from me so I can keep an eye on it. The driver put all the big luggage under the bus and gave people a luggage receipt, which was reassuring.
The bus left at 8:44 a.m. and was probably 1/4 full. You give the driver the white receipt and keep the yellow copy. Something different this time was the driver handed me the plastic card below to use to get back on the bus at the midway rest stop at Ciudad Quesada, so don’t lose it. Warning: the rest stop is only 10 minutes and not everyone will get off; also, if you don’t get back in time, new riders will be lined up and may take your seat, so get back in time to reclaim your seat and don’t leave valuables behind.
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I plotted the bus route and stops here link. Most notable: the bus stopped in Alajuela (Central de Autobuses del Norte) across the highway from SJO airport. If you fly in and want to avoid coming into San Jose ($30 taxi ride) to board where the bus starts, you can board in Alajuela. Warning: since there are no reserved seats, there is a possibility you could be standing for four hours!
What I find so fascinating about Costa Rica are the changes in elevation and the resulting weather pattern. To understand the graph on the elevation map below from Google Earth, read from left to right to follow our trip from San Jose to La Fortuna. The trip starts at 38oo ft. above sea level in San Jose, dips down by Alajuela and then heads higher going north into the cloud forest. Around Naranjo, you can feel the temperature drop. Interestingly, the elevation drops under 1000 ft. when you get to La Fortuna (right side of graph below) which means it is hotter than I like. I prefer life above 3000 feet, which is normally 70F (+/- 10 degrees) most of the time.
The bus stops in Zarcero, which has a beautiful central park full of topiary arches, so look right. It could be a final destination for anyone wanting to explore this pretty town.
Here are some pictures from the La Fortuna Facebook Album link.
The La Fortuna bus station is modern, small, safe, clean and easy to navigate.
Note: attached to the bus station is a MegaSuper, a full grocery store where you can buy your supplies before heading to the hostel or trail.
If you want to go around the lake, this station has a bus going to Tilaran on the west side of the lake.
Another great feature of this station is the soda (small restaurant) located near the bus station just past the MegaSuper. Soda La Hormiga has a clean bathroom, a wide selection and reasonable prices. Soda Website. It is only open for breakfast and lunch.
When the time comes to return to San Jose, Tyler Wenzel at CRTravel wrote up the details here La Fortuna to San Jose Return Trip. The bus returning to San Jose stops at SJO airport in case you are flying out.
Tabacon is a wonderful place to enjoy the beauty of Costa Rica. There are three Tabacons – the hotel, the spa and the hot springs, but I was only interested in the hot springs. The hotel and spa were out of my price range with rooms running from $400 to $1000 a night, and I wanted to try the place without paying full price. So I was excited to discover we could buy a day pass to the hot springs at an affordable rate. The usual rate for tourists is $105 per person including lunch and dinner, but we paid only $65 per person because we are legal residents of Costa Rica. Note, there is a “free” hot spring downstream, across the street and under the bridge for the budget minded. Free Hot Springs in La Fortuna
Getting there
Tabacon is located seven miles west of La Fortuna and cost us about $1/mile or $7 each way for a taxi. There is no public transportation except a remote chance to take the infrequent Tilaran bus and hope to get off at Tabacon, which does not seem cost effective especially trying to flag down the bus to get back to La Fortuna.
Arriving
Tabacon’s hours are 10 a.m to 10 p.m. We had a taxi pick us up at 9:30 a.m. in La Fortuna and arrived at Tabacon at 9:45, so we walked across the street and investigated the “free” hot springs people talk about. I had made an online, prepaid reservation, so we only needed to check in at the front desk. The clerk: 1) checked our cedulas to make sure we qualified for the resident rate, 2) made an imprint of my credit card as a deposit for the towel and locker, 3) gave us lunch and dinner receipts, and 4) gave us wrist bands to show we were guests for the day. This is when I learned there was an unadvertised manager’s special that we could come back the next day for free with that wrist band, but unfortunately, we already had plans at another hot springs. You give the towel ticket to the attendant between the two dressing rooms who gives you a thick towel.
Suggestion here: carrying the towel around was a pain, so next time, I will keep the towel ticket or the towel in my locker until I come back for lunch and need to dry off.
The hottest pools are about 100 degrees Fahrenheit. Above is the main pool with a temperature in the 90s, a slide and swim-up bar. Note on the bar: you can either give the bartender cash or have him hold your credit card to run a balance against. I chose to give him $50 cash deposit. Drinks averaged $10. Don’t think about it and enjoy your $50.
I will mention that, yes indeed, it rained while we were in the hot springs, but who cares? We were already wet. In fact, it was sort of magical being in the hot water with cool rain coming down around us. There were no thunderstorms, which, if they had occurred, might have changed our attitude.
Lockers
OK, major mistake. I brought way too much stuff to Tabacon. I brought towels, an assortment of shoes, sunscreen, bug spray, camera, phone, etc. As a result, I had to use the big backpack which barely fit in the locker. Plus, the lock was quite flimsy so I worried about my valuables too much. Next time I will be a minimalist. Definitely bring sunscreen, insect repellent (for dinner time), and sunglasses. We stayed barefoot except for meal-times when we also threw on our casual, quick-dry clothing.
Food
When I made my reservations, I was asked for the time I wanted to eat lunch and dinner. I chose the earliest times available, 12 noon and 5 p.m. I learned that we could have eaten at the swim-up bar if we had wanted pay-as-you-go, but I don’t know the economics of making that choice. The restaurant meals are quite large, so I think next time we will schedule only one meal, probably dinner, and snack at the bar.
Both meals were wonderful. The lunch menu included appetizers, natural fruit drinks, main course options, desserts, and coffee with the option to buy beer or other drinks. Dinner was a buffet with a wide selection of choices, which were all good. Again, if you are going to save money using a day pass, consider splurging on the drink and food.
Afterward
After lunch, it was back to the hot springs, followed by afternoon cocktails and dinner. After dinner, we chose to sit by the pool to read and enjoy the peaceful surroundings until our prearranged taxi came at 7 p.m. There appears to be an after-five special that many locals take advantage of since more people showed up for dinner. This might be a good option to follow an afternoon hike.
Rates
The usual rate for a one-day pass with lunch and dinner is $105 per person,
but during the off-season, be sure to ask if they are offering a special deal. They don’t advertise that Costa Rica residents can get the same entrance for $65 a person (Invoice), and as mentioned above, we only found out upon arrival that our pass would be good for two days.
My friend, Tyler Wenzel of CR Traveling, who lives in La Fortuna, told me he can find the best prices, so you might want to check with him before booking.
Transportation
Here is the taxi driver we used to get from La Fortuna to Tabacon. It costs us about $1/mile or $7 each way. 8972 2473 Rodrigo. He picked us up at 9:30 a.m. and came back for us right on time at 7 p.m. During the week Rodrigo had Carlos pick us up when he was not available.
Here is a great video from TravelCostaRicaNow of their trip to Tabacon Video
We arrived at Tabacon before they opened and decided to walk across the street to the infamous “free” hot springs (comments) often touted by budget minded travelers. Apparently, the hot water from the resort drains under the bridge, which is probably public property allowing public access. We first heard about the “free” springs while taking a tour with Red Lava out of La Fortuna in 2015. The tour ended with everyone being dropped off on the side of the road to go swimming before heading home. Unfortunately, (maybe fortunately) the night was dark and stormy, so no one on the tour wanted to chance going down the trail.
The trail to the river is easy to locate from the main road, paved and short, but that is where civilization ends. As you can see above, the trail ends at the river bank and access down is steep and slippery, so I suggest you prepare for it.
Also, there are no aesthetics at the “free” place. It looks a like like a dump with trash and graffiti.
It seems bathers need to head left under the bridge to enjoy the hot water since there appeared to be no easy access going right downstream.
Once you cross under the bridge, there is an attractive location to soak. I am not sure what the etiquette is here since there are many other people in various states of dress and embrace that make it awkward to step over them to find a private place to settle. I understand people get quite frisky here when the sun goes down. A future trip for me will be trying to see how to make the most of this place.
Here is a view down from the north side of the bridge at the people enjoying the hot water. There may even be a way to get down to the upper pool from this direction, but it was not obvious.
Here are two of my favorite CR guides documenting their trip to the “free” springs: TravelCostaRicaNow video
I could not find any public transportation from La Fortuna to this hot springs. There are no local buses except the one that runs infrequently to Tilaran which would be problematic flagging down to get back There are employee buses that travel to the springs but non-employees are not allowed on. So here is the taxi driver we used to get us from La Fortuna and back who I would recommend.
Interesting Caja story. We moved to San Jose from San Ramon where we had lived for a year. When we moved to SJ, I needed to affiliate with my new EBAIS which turned into quite and adventure.
Trip #1
I went to the EBAIS to understand what they needed. Old cards from San Ramon, an application with a signature of my landlord, a utility bill, copy of my landlord’s Cedula.
Trip #2
I brought all the completed forms and copies back. They process my affiliation but said there was something wrong with my wife’s but they don’t tell me what. They said I could either have them send her card back to San Ramon to fix or start over. I choose send back to SR.
Trip #3
I return in a week and they said no one would pick up the phone in SR to make the changes so they suggested I start over. I am freaking out on what paperwork I will need again. They give me a sheet with the requirements, which include another application for BOTH of us, copies of our cedulas, utility bill and our marriage certificate. Fortunately, we got married in CR and I just needed to go downtown and pick up a copy. We went over to the ARCR office and got some help filling the forms out.
Trip #4
Returned with the completed paperwork and were rejected because we had crossed out our US phone number and wrote in our CR phone number. No marks or corrections allowed so she gave us another form and we went to the waiting room and filled it out again and returned and turned it in. They said to come back in a week.
Trip #5
We came back in a week and I anxiously sat while they clicked on the computer and shuffled papers and eventually pulled my wife’s paper file which had all the original paper work from Trip #4 (miracle) and printed out her new card.
The problem with my wife’s affiliation was with her Caja number. Apparently, while we were living in San Ramon we originally applied during a confusing time involving confusion on dependent expat spouses that took a while to clear up. I did not think we were affected since my wife’s card says she is my dependent.
Turns out that CR Caja numbering system is rooted in the man working and the woman being the dependent. I understand that is signified by the man getting a Caja number that begins with a “1” and the dependent woman getting a Caja number starting with a “2”. The San Ramon EBAIS inadvertently assigned my wife a number starting with a “1” even though she was not a male and was marked on the card as my dependent. So, it blew up their computer and was the reason we had to reapply. I understand they are having problems with these changing times where more women are working and more men are staying home with the kids thus messing up their old patriarchal numbering system. So, as long as we stayed in San Ramon everything was cool and it was only by changing EBAISs did the error get flagged.
Costa Rica By Bus 